Ashton Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 Hi Guys, I know its possible to have secondary groups modified per combat unit etc, however, is it possible to have a members primary group changed upon accepting their application? So when a member is accepted their primary group is automatically changed to a group set in the PERSCOM settings? Is it also possible to be able to select multiple secondary groups for a combat unit or admin unit? Or have potentially have this feature added? Thanks ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Jon Erickson Posted January 30, 2019 Administrators Share Posted January 30, 2019 We have thought about allowing multiple groups assigned to a combat unit, it wouldn’t be hard to implement or manage, the question is, if an organization assigns a group to unit A and then assigns the same group to unit B, then member is removed from unit A, they’d be removed from the group that was assigned for unit B. Make sense? We feel as it could possibly cause some confusion for administrators. Secondly, we have taken a stance as the development team to not modify the users primary group at this time. We feel as administrators, it’s in your best interest to only manage secondary groups. This promotes consistently throughout the use of the application. We know, some organizations want all their members to be in a certain group - that’s fine. We may add a feature that if you’re a soldier in PERSCOM, you’re assigned to this group etc. Quote Owner Deschutes Design Group LLC email | jon@deschutesdesigngroup.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Cantu Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 I agree that for the scope of PERSCOM, management of secondary groups is the way to go. From a security (permissions) point of view, secondary groups is just as secure as primary groups; IPB will grant users permissions based on the highest allowed permission from all groups the member is part of. That said, you as an administrator still have the power to manage your member's groups via adminCP. It's just not automated through PERSCOM, and adds risk of mistakes, should you choose to do so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashton Posted January 30, 2019 Author Share Posted January 30, 2019 Ahh right, I see your point. It was mainly due to the fact not all perscom users are admin wizzes in ipb. However, given how granular the permissions are in IPB I can just set the admin groups to be able to manage users and groups etc. Thanks anyway! ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ignacio Pablo Duro Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 Hey everyone! As far as I understand, in PERSCOM 2.0 we are not changing the primary group anymore (I'm okay with this definition). But, I remember that with PERSCOM 1.0 we used to change the primary group once the application was processed, right? Shouldn't we do the same in 2.0? Right now the secondary group is added when the user submits the application and I don't have the possibility to give "limited" access to the applicant. From my point of view, the secondary group should be applied once the application is processed. As admin, I want to reserve the rights of decline the application and not compromise private information. What do you think? PS: Sorry for the bad English! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Cantu Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 5 hours ago, Ignacio Pablo Duro said: Hey everyone! As far as I understand, in PERSCOM 2.0 we are not changing the primary group anymore (I'm okay with this definition). But, I remember that with PERSCOM 1.0 we used to change the primary group once the application was processed, right? Shouldn't we do the same in 2.0? Right now the secondary group is added when the user submits the application and I don't have the possibility to give "limited" access to the applicant. From my point of view, the secondary group should be applied once the application is processed. As admin, I want to reserve the rights of decline the application and not compromise private information. What do you think? PS: Sorry for the bad English! In adminCP, go to PERSCOM -> Applications -> Settings -> Forums Tab : there you have the option "Enable Group Management." You can disable this, which will stop applicants from being moved to a user group upon submission. Alternatively, you can create a user group for applicants, and then provide appropriate permissions for that group. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Jon Erickson Posted February 1, 2019 Administrators Share Posted February 1, 2019 As Arthur pointed out, the general approach to this workflow, is to create a forum user group for just applicants. You can then assign all permissions you would like when they are going through the application process. Once an application is processed and they are assigned a combat unit, they are placed in the user group associated with the combat unit. If you deny the application, they are removed from the applicant usergroup and will be back to normal forum member status. 1 Quote Owner Deschutes Design Group LLC email | jon@deschutesdesigngroup.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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